| Avtor | Soobshenie | 
| I. D. Novikov,  "Fizika Kosmosa", 1986 
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| Chernaya dyra | 26.03.2003 20:16 |  | 
 |  | 1. Vvedenie    
2. Pole tyagoteniya nevrashayusheisya    
chernoi dyry    
3. Pole tyagoteniya vrashayusheisya    
chernoi dyry    
4. Fizicheskie processy    
v pole tyagoteniya chernoi dyry    
    
    
1. Vvedenie    
    
Chernaya dyra - oblast' prostranstva, v k-roi pole tyagoteniya nastol'ko sil'no, chto    
vtoraya kosmich. skorost' (parabolicheskaya    
skorost')     
dlya nahodyashihsya v etoi oblasti tel dolzhna byla  by prevyshat' skorost' sveta, t.e. >> Prochitat' stat'yu
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| A.P. Vasi 
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| Re: Chernaya dyra | 12.01.2013 16:00 |  | 
 |  | Yu.S.Reshnikov -----------------------
 Vy   
by poshli by na forum otkryli by vopros i obsuzhdali by ego,
 ne ponimayu Vashe sado mazo i Vashe zhelanie
 postoyanno slushat' ot menya chto Vash uroven' intellekta ochen'   
nizkii - nichego lichnogo, -
 uroven' v fizike i kosmologii uroven' - bezmozgloi skotiny.
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| Naverh |  | 
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| Yu. S. Reshnikov 
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| Re[2]: Chernaya dyra | 12.01.2013 18:18 |  | 
 |  | Po  
Vashemu   
ya  
ne  
na  
forume ?   
I  
forum  
etot  
astronomicheskii !   
I  
tema  
v  
kotoroi  
i  
Vy,  
i  
ya  
nahodimsya  
ne  
podrazumevaet  
Vashego  
ko  
mne  
otnosheniya,  
i  
Vashih  
ocenok  
moih  
izvilin,  
a  
razvivaet  
znachimye  
v  
astronomii  
predstavleniya.  
I  
vopros,  
kak  
raskryvat'  
etu  
temu  
chisto  
fizicheski  
ili  
chisto  
astronomicheski,  
imeet  
vazhnoe  
znachenie  
dlya  
dal'neishego  
ee  
razvitiya.  
Vot  
ya,  
kak  
raz  
pytayus'  
v  
nei  
razobrat'sya |  | 
| Naverh |  | 
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| A.P. Vasi 
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| Re: Chernaya dyra | 12.01.2013 18:20 |  | 
 |  | Yu.S.Reshnikov -----------------------
 Vy    
by poshli by na forum otkryli by vopros i obsuzhdali by ego,
 ne ponimayu Vashe sado mazo i Vashe zhelanie
 postoyanno slushat' ot menya chto Vash uroven' intellekta ochen'    
nizkii - nichego lichnogo, -
 uroven' v fizike i kosmologii uroven' - bezmozgloi skotiny.
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| Naverh |  | 
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| Yu. S. Reshnikov 
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| Re[3]: Chernaya dyra | 12.01.2013 18:54 |  | 
 |  | Pravil'nyi otvet -  
tema raskryvaetsya  
astrofizicheski. No chto  
est' astrofizika -  
perenos fizicheskih  
predstavlenii v  
astronomiyu ili  
ispol'zovanie  
astronomiei  
fizicheskih dannyh. V  
pervom sluchae reshenie  
chisto fizicheskoe -  
prosto delaetsya  
popravka na neobychnye  
fizicheskie usloviya. Vo  
vtorom sluchae reshenie  
chisto astronomicheskoe  
- razbirayutsya imenno  
astronomicheskie  
usloviya. Vot tak i  
dolzhno byt' i k etomu  
nuzhno priiti |  | 
| Naverh |  | 
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| A.P. Vasi 
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| Re: Chernaya dyra | 12.01.2013 19:03 |  | 
 |  | Yu.S.Reshnikov -----------------------
 Vy     
by poshli by na forum otkryli by vopros i obsuzhdali by ego,
 ne ponimayu Vashe sado mazo i Vashe zhelanie
 postoyanno slushat' ot menya chto Vash uroven' intellekta ochen'     
nizkii - nichego lichnogo, -
 uroven' v fizike i kosmologii uroven' - bezmozgloi skotiny.
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| Naverh |  | 
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| Yu. S. Reshnikov 
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| Re: Chernaya dyra | 18.01.2013 18:14 |  | 
 |  | Planetnaya  
himiya  
voznikaet  
iz  
astrohimii.  
Astrohimiya  
proishodit  
iz  
astroProtohimii.  
Himiya  
svyazana  
s  
gravitaciei.  
Astrohimiya,  
tak  
zhe  
imeet  
svoi  
gravitacionnye  
processy.  
Razbiraemaya  
tema  
otnositsya  
k  
svoistvam  
astrohimicheskim,  
kak  
osnove  
PVK  
i  
poluchaet  
cherez  
nih  
svoe  
razreshenie.  
Nuzhno  
otmetit',  
chto  
gravitacionno- 
himicheskie  
processy  
ne  
mogut  
byt'  
ogranicheny  
skorost'yu  
sveta |  | 
| Naverh |  | 
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| Yu. S. Reshnikov 
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| Re[2]: Chernaya dyra | 19.01.2013 1:14 |  | 
 |  | Skorost'  
bystree  
sveta  
dolzhna  
byt'  
v  
astroob'ekte  
(PVK),  
kak  
svyazuyushee  
vzaimodeistvie.  
Elektro- 
magnitnoe  
izluchenie  
ne  
vypolnyaet  
takoi  
funkcii  
iz- 
za  
nesorazmernosti  
svoei  
skorosti  
masshtabam  
astroob'ekta,  
chto  
vidno  
uzhe  
na  
PVK  
tumannosti  
(i  
EMI  
ne  
est'  
upravlyayushei  
siloi).  
Tol'ko  
gravitacionnoe  
vzaimodeistvie,  
kak  
opredelyayushee  
(vmeste  
s  
himiei)  
PVK  
dolzhno  
obladat'  
takim  
svoistvom.  
Gravitacionnye  
volny  
iz  
momental'nogo  
vzaimodeistviya  
ne  
vytekayut |  | 
| Naverh |  | 
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| Yu. S. Reshnikov 
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| Re[3]: Chernaya dyra | 19.01.2013 9:58 |  | 
 |  | PVK  
neobhodima  
skorost'  
dostatochnaya 
(!)  
dlya  
trebuemoi  
odnovremennosti  
sobytii  
v  
ego  
ob'eme.  
Chto  
oznachaet  
razlichnye  
dostatochnye  
skorosti  
v  
razlichnyh  
PVK.  
Skorost'  
svyazuyushego  
vzaimodeistviya  
mozhno  
vychislit'  
i  
popytat'sya  
registrirovat'.  
Eto  
vozmozhno,  
esli  
gravitacionnye  
volny  
sushestvuyut |  | 
| Naverh |  | 
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| V. B. Daneev 
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| Re: Chernaya dyra | 19.01.2013 17:11 |  | 
 |  | Svyashenna  
reka  
Eridan.  
S  
Kresheniem.  
Spor  
mezhdu  
fizikami  
i  
himikami  
napominaet  
spor  
mezhdu  
shivaitami  
i  
vishnuitami  
-  
odni  
upivayutsya  
silami,  
drugie  
tyanutsya  
k  
sushestvam.  
Gde  
nauka,  
gde  
religiya? 
O  
gravitacii  
davno  
skazano  
-  
dvizhet  
zvezdy  
i  
planety,  
tam  
zhe  
raskryt  
smysl,  
stol'  
znachimogo  
yavleniya  
-  
Lyubov'.  
Predstavlyaete  
skol'ko  
tam  
Lyubvi,  
chto  
nas,  
naivnyh,  
takaya  
Sila  
povergaet  
v  
svyashennyi  
uzhas.  
No  
vot  
ved',  
kak  
boimsya,  
a  
zhazhda  
poznaniya  
eshe  
sil'nee |  | 
| Naverh |  | 
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| Yu. S. Reshnikov 
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| Re[2]: Chernaya dyra | 20.01.2013 9:23 |  | 
 |  | Da,  
poeziya  
krasivaya  
konechno.  
Prodolzheniem  
vashei  
prazdnichnoi  
shutki  
budet  
schitat'  
shivaitov  
i  
vishnuitov  
byvshimi  
astrofizikami  
i  
astrohimikami.  
Vernemsya  
k  
PVK.  
Est'  
vopros  
-  
yavlyayutsya  
li,  
gravitacionnymi  
volnami,  
te  
vozmozhnye  
signaly,  
poluchaemye  
iz  
PVK  
s  
kotorymi  
nash  
planetnyi  
PVK  
svyazan  
sistemno ?   
Vse- 
taki  
volnami  
dolzhny  
byt'  
signaly,  
prihodyashie  
iz  
PVK  
ne  
svyazanyh  
sistemno  
s  
nashim.  
Togda  
oni  
deistvitel'no  
volny,  
a  
ne  
kakie- 
libo  
sistemnye  
izmeneniya |  | 
| Naverh |  | 
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