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O. A. Bykovskii
Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity). 9.11.2007 20:18

Bolee chem strannye kamni (Spirit, Opportunity). Vse pred'yavlyaemye fotografii i panoramy tochno sootvetstvuyut originalam NASA (adres stat'i http://tonos.ru/ articles/marslife). Strannost' fotografii zaklyuchaetsya v tom chto, nekotorye kamni udivitel'no pohozhi na zhivyh sushestv (ne gumanoidy i voobshe ne zemnogo vida, no vse zhe eto ne prosto kamni, a organizovannaya materiya). Sovershenno yasno, chto rech' ne idet o belkovoi forme zhizni. Kakaya imenno? I deistvitel'no li eto strannye kamni, a ne obychnye bulyzhniki iz bazal'ta ili peremeshannaya brekchiya i est' sut' nashego soobsheniya. V stat'e strannyh kamnei gorazdo bol'she (Zhivotnye Marsa http://tonos.ru/articles/marslife). Poslednie panoramy sdelannye Spiritom. Oct 30, 2007 ( sol 1359) Obratim vnimanie na dva stranno pohozhih kamnya: odin v centre panoramy, vtoroi (tochno takoi zhe) sprava i na perednem plane. (eto pohozhie, no raznye kamni) Fotografii na vsyakii sluchai zadublirovany. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2371/1...2a71_o.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?...436&size=o Nalichie ryadom dvuh pohozhih kamnei, slozhnoi neobychnoi formy, usilivaetsya tem, chto ranee osen'yu Spirit uzhe fotografiroval analogichnye po forme kamni nahodyashiesya v neskol'ko otlichnom polozhenii -pozah. Esli predpolozhit' chto otrostok speredi eto nekii hobot to dal'she kak v stat'e mozhno predpolozhit' chto eto neobychnoe sredstvo peremesheniya, (psevdo noga), pomogayushaya peremesheniyu kamnya-zhivotnogo. Sravnivaya fotografii osen'-leto vse stanovitsya na svoe mesto i legko otozhdestvlyaetsya mezhdu soboi (raznye kamni s odnim i tem zhe sushestvom). http://tonos.ru/images/articles/mars/...age004.jpg http://www.sciteclibrary.ru/ris-stat/...age048.jpg Krome etogo fotografiya kamnya pohozhego na cherep http://www.flickr.com/photos/hortonhe...431738030/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/hortonhe...et-528086/ legko sovmeshaetsya s dannoi ideei kamnyami-sushestvami v tom smysle, chto otrostok-hvost-hobot yavlyaetsya estestvennym prodolzheniem hryasha vidimogo mezhdu glaznicami i kak by yavlyayushegosya hryashom osnovaniem hobota. Vse eto tem bolee pravdopodobno, chto kamni slony imeyut dostatochno slozhnuyu, no funkcional'nuyu formu i v ogromnom kolichestve popadayut v kadr fotokamer Spirita. Bukval'no zapolnyaya vse zadnie plany panoramy. Ssylki NASA, na kamni privedennye vyshe (originaly NASA). Obshaya ssylka NASA, znaya den' i god legko naiti nuzhnuyu fotografiyu Spirita. http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/spirit.html Kak pol'zovat'sya, vydelyaete den', zatem knopka snizu View Selected Sol. Ssylki NASA na tri strannyh dnya raboty Spirita (voobshe govorya v 8 chastyah rekomenduemoi stat'i 800 fotografii, rovno stol'ko zhe i strannyh ob'ektov). Spirit Oct 30, 2007 ( sol 1359) http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galler...p1359.html Spirit October 2, 2005 Sol 621 http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galler..._p621.html http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galler...4L5M1.HTML Spirit Mar 23, 2007 ( sol 1144) http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galler...p1144.html http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galler...36L7M1.JPG Kak izvestno Spirit imeet na panoramnoi kamere 7 fil'trov na kazhdyi iz dvuh imeyushihsya ob'ektiva (7*2). Vse fil'try ispol'zuyutsya kraine redko. Otsyuda cvet eto sintez iz imeyusheisya informacii. T. e. cvet ne sootvetstvuet real'nomu, no vse ostal'noe eto podlinnye fotografii NASA. Ponyatno, chto cvet ne sootvetstvoval by i pri lyuboi kombinacii fil'trov, poskol'ku sama real'nost' v dannom sluchae uslovna. Nadeyus' ni kto na forume ne somnevaetsya v podlinnosti ishodnogo materiala NASA. Adres stat'i na TONOS http://tonos.ru/articles/marslife http://tonos.ru/articles/marsanimals Adres stat'i na STL (v nachale stat'i Zhivotnye Marsa, est' ssylki na 8 chastei v kotoryh napominayu razmesheno 800 fotografii) http://www.sciteclibrary.ru/rus/catal.../8617.html Vse fotografii podlinnye. OB
Naverh
O. A. Bykovskii
Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity). 11.11.2007 7:55

Na etih snimkah mikroskop Spirita pokazyvaet poverhnost' kamnya imeet mikrootverstiya (obolochka kamnei po fotografiyam 3-5 sm, freza uglublyalas' ne bolee 1 sm). Neobhodimo fotografirovat' kamni sever-yug, izuchat' podoshvu (nalichie harakternoi odnotipnoi podoshvy). http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...UP2400L5M1.JPG Poverhnost' kamnya pod mikroskopom (ne etogo kamnya, ryadom). http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...UP2936M2M1.JPG Spirit Sep 29, 2007 ( sol 1329) http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1362/...c0d9bd.jpg?v=0 Poskol'ku gipoteza zhizni na Marse kasaetsya temy po ponyatnym prichinam spornoi, to neskol'ko otzyvov, prichem dlinnye obsuzhdeniya tak zhe kak prishedshie po mylu mnoi ne privodyatsya. Mneniya raznye. Tak vyglyadit obsuzhdenie gipotezy marsianskoi kamenoi zhizni (prakticheski) na forumah, Novosti Kosmonavtiki i TONOS. Eto chto by po vozmozhnosti izbezhat' povtorenii, mneniyami. . Novosti Kosmonavtiki. //////Mne tak, naprimer, eta gipoteza ochen' nravit'sya i ochen' by hotelos', chto by ona hotya by v kakoi-to chasti okazalas' verna. V sporah rozhdaetsya istina, mozhet i zdes' rodit'sya. Vopros za schet kakoi energii idet razvitie ob'ektov?////// /////6peg xoTb u pa3gpa>kaeT - Ho cTuMy/\upyeT...///// //////A u menya v chem-to Bykovskii dazhe vyzyvaet uvazhenie. Vyskazyvat' svoi idei kogda obshestvo vokrug vertit pal'cem u viska - eto nado smelost' imet'. Ne kazhdyi reshitsya protiv vetra .. . Konechno, v zhizn' kamnei mne i samomu chto-to ne ochen' veritsya. Proishodyashemu na kartinkah mozhno naiti bolee real'nye ob'yasneniya. No, svet velik, vsyakoe mozhet byt'... Fenomen zhizni my imeli udovol'stvie nablyudat' tol'ko na odnoi planete i eto ne dostatochnaya dlya statistiki vyborka. Pochemu my obobshaem, chto zhizn' na Marse (esli ona tam est') dolzhna byt' pohozha na zemnuyu po forme i po metabolizmu?///// /////Sverhnovyi pisal(a): Konechno, v zhizn' kamnei mne i samomu chto-to ne ochen' veritsya...///// ////Vot na glazah, da, proishodit (proizoshla? ) celaya real'naya nauchnaya revolyuciya, svyazannaya, kstati, s "zhizn'yu na Marse", a obsuzhdaetsya pochemu-to vsyakii okolooprovergatel'skii hlam...//// /////Ne, ya ne protiv vnimatel'nogo vglyadyvaniya v videoinformaciyu s Marsa, no eto vse deistvitel'no tol'ko "zhizn' kamnei", ne bolee togo Interesnaya, da, no "zhizn'yu" yavlyayushayasya tol'ko v metaforicheskom smysle////// /////Ne vse chto dvizhetsya e ... zhivet...////// Mnenie moderatora NK /////Vse bol'she cheshutsya ruki perekinut' etu temu v ChD. Prosto nikak ne mogu opredelit' - boleznennye eto posty ili ne ochen'.////// Forum TONOS //////Est' logika, kotoroi sleduet trezvo priderzhivt'sya////// /////Eslib zhizn' byla sama NASA uzhe by po teleku zakrichala chto mol zhizn' nashli i t.d. ni chego podobnogo vodu by otyskat', a oni pro zhizn' bazaryat.///// /////Spasibo za foto - interesno bylo posmotret'.///// ////Interesnaya tochka zreniya. Vyglyadit krasivo, no somnitel'na.///// //////Sudya po krasote, eto nesomnenno zhizn' ili nechto shozhee s neyu. Nekaya forma organizacii materii privodyashaya k mestnomu snizheniyu entropii. Nekotorye iz etih sushestv yavno samobytny i dolzhny rassmatrivat'sya kak lichnosti. Neobhodimo vvesti moratorii na lyuboe vozdeistvie nashei tehniki sposobnoe povredit' kamennuyu zhizn' Marsa. Sudya po namekam soderzhashimisya v "Ural'skih skazah" Bazhova , nechto podobnoe dolzhno byt' i u nas na Zemle. A.Il'in, zhurnalist, "Yunyi tehnik".////// Nu nakonec-to! Est' lyudi, kotorye ne bez osnovanii schitayut, chto na Marse otkryta zhizn', i dovol'no burnaya. Kogda ne znaesh' chto ishesh' otkroi poshire glaza, i uvidish'. Ooo, Dina, oni tam stol'ko interesnogo na fotografiyah razglyadeli - zakachaesh'sya. Chital, kak priklyuchencheskuyu povest'. Kraine smelaya gipoteza, s etogo ugla zhizn' na Marse ne rassmatrivali.... Dochital Nu voobshe ideya real'naya. hotya vot tot fakt, chto zhizn' ne obyazana byt' chelovekoobraznoi, et oni pravy. Nado budet v drugih mestah poiskat' podtverzhdeniya.. a razve kamni s Marsa ne izuchalis'? Imho bred, potomuchto ser'eznye issledovateli obyazatel'no podelilis' by svoimi sobrazheniyami, pochemu do sih por eto ne bylo obnaruzhenol, kakie osobennosti zhizni ne pozvolli ee uvidet' pod mikroskopom. Hotya ne, stat'ya tru. Interesno. Stat'ya ponravilas'. HZ vse eto konechno, no vot stereotipchikov u nas hvataet. A fotki i vpryam' zabavnye. mda.....sat'ya napisana yavno ne uchenym chelovekom, a vsego lish' "lyubitelem" strashilok i inoplanetnyh zahvatchikov v stile peredachi "neob'yasnimo, no fakt" skazhu chestno, vs ne chitala,lish' probezhala mel'kom po tekstu. srazu brosilis' v glaza "professionalizm" i "obrazovannost'" vayatelya etogo genial'nogo proizvedeniya . "ne kto zhe ne stanet utverzhdat',".....afftar, uchi grammatiku! P.S. navernoe vse zhe stoit prochitat' stat'yu vsyu, eto opredelnno skrasit trudovye budni na nedelyu kak minimum obaldnnye fotki s marsa Nauchis' chitat' mezhdu strok i ty poznaesh' istinu! Novyi vzglyad na zhizn' na Marse, zastavlyaet zadumat'sya... V stat'e O. Bykovskogo privedeno mnogo interesneishih fotografii poverhnosti Marsa Etot pol'zovatel' skazal Spasibo Severyanin za eto poleznoe soobshenie: Soprovozhdaetsya galereei fotografii i s analizom nalichiya priznakov zhizni na Marse. Hot' i dlinno - na 4-h stranicah, no, po-moemu, interesno. I ne obyazatel'no so vsem napisannym soglashat'sya! Esli podhodit' k stat'e s filosovskoi tochki zreniya, to vozmozhno vse i eta teoriya imeet pravo na svoe sushestvovanie, hotya dlya sebya ya tak i ne ponyal ubeditel'nogo principa biokamneobrazovaniya. Smushaet drugoe: fotografii sdelany kak ya ponyal marsohodom, radius deistviya marsohoda ne velik, a stalo byt' fotografii mozhno schitat' chastnym sluchaem marsianskogo lanadshafta. Priroda dannyh kamnei ne mozhet (iz prochitannogo materiala) rasprostranyat'sya na vsyu poverhnost' planety. Lyubuyu gepotizu nado proveryat', a dlya etogo nuzhny celenapravlennye mery. Sudya po fotografiyam, chto-to zhivoe tam yavno est' Vse-taki, prochitaite stat'yu Kakaya zhizn', nu ya ponmayu v NASSA, tam preimushestvenno ne biologi, im golovu morochat
Naverh
O. A. Bykovskii
Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity). 17.11.2007 14:57

Eti strannye shariki... Zhal' chto ssylki neaktivny. Nizhe est' ssylki, na fotografii sharikov-gematitov iz kratera Igl eto pervye mesyacy prebyvaniya Opportuniti na Marse (2004g). Predlagayu obratit' vnimanie na evolyuciyu sharikov. Tak vot, uvidev na fotografiyah shariki na kamnyah eksperty NASA, (kak dumayu i my vse) srazu zhe zametili eti samye sinie krasivye shariki. I ni kto togda ne somnevalsya v tom chto eti shariki est' gematity. Sobstvenno drugogo nikto ne zhdal kak i to chto poristye kamni eto kuski lavy. Nizhe nekotorye fotografii chetyreh letnei davnosti, otkroite hotya by nekotorye ne polenites' ili mozhno peremestit'sya na AstraGalaktiku gde ssylki aktivny. Rannyaya vesna Feb 28, 2004 at Eagle crater, Meridiani Plain, Mars http://tonos.ru/images/articles/mars/8/image013.jpg Tak vyglyadyat shariki cherez tri mesyaca v nachale marsianskogo leta Opportunity May 31, 2004 ( sol 125) Ekonom rezhim http://tonos.ru/images/articles/mars/8/image032.jpg adres na stranichku http://www.flickr.com/photos/hortonheardawho/273892406/ Fotografii sdelany primerno v odnom meste s raznicei v tri mesyaca. (Otkrytye shariki est' i zimoi i letom, no pritoplenye tol'ko zimoi i vesnoi, letom takih net.) Eto dopolnitel'nye ssylki (Ssylki mozhno propustit' do poyasnitel'nogo teksta). Ssylka na stranichku iz arhiva NASA http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040302a.html Otdel'naya fotografiya iz etogo spiska. http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040302a/16-jg-02-mi1-B035R1_br.jpg Krupnyi plan http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040302a/15-jg-01-elcap-texture-B038R1_br.jpg (fotografii v ekonom rezhime v maksimal'nom razreshenii mozhno otkryt' po verhnei ssylke) 9 Fevralya Str. iz arhiva http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040209a.html Foto http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040209a/ 1M129515692EFF0312P2939M2M1_mi_RobtE_full-B016R1.jpg 12 FEVRALYa 2004 Str. iz arhiva http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040212a.html Fotografiya http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040212a/06-ml-2-rock-B019R1.jpg 28 fevralya 2004 g. http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=4122284&size=o 3 marta Foto http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040303a/xpe_el_cap_2_holes-B039R1.jpg Panorama krupnym planom visyashih sharikov http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040323a/LastChance_F-B058R1.jpg Stranica arhiva http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040323a.html Panorama kamnei v kratere Igl. http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040303a/xpe_el_cap_2_holes-B039R1.jpg Kommentarii. Tak vot, srazu nikomu i v golovu ne prishlo gadat' chto eto, da, i ne moglo priiti. No, teper' po proshestvii vremeni, kogda u nas est' mnogie sotni tysyach fotografii pochti za chetyre goda raboty, posmotrite vnimatel'no i otmet'te sleduyushee. Rannei vesnoi na fotografiyah shariki matovye, mnogo zatoplennyh kak by rozhdayushihsya. Letom i osen'yu blestyashie, krasivye polnost'yu oformlennye shariki i TOL'KO NA POVERHNOSTI. Prichem hot' poverhu kamnya hot' na bokovoi stenke, shariki visyat edva kasayas'. Visyat kak yagody na kustah ili kapel'ki smoly na stvolah derev'ev. Poetomu esli by byla sdelana bokovaya fotografiya skaly ili drugogo kamnya dlya sluchaya spelyh, sozrevshih sharikov to eto stalo by prosto brosat'sya v glaza t. e. osoboe sostoyanie yarkih, ideal'nyh sharikov. Pri sushestvuyushem tol'ko pryamom rakurse eto menee zametno. Dalee, vnizu na peske my takzhe vidim shariki bol'shinstvo polnost'yu otkrytye. A ved' v prisypannom ili polnost'yu zasypannom sostoyanii sharikov dolzhno byt' gorazdo chashe. Soglasimsya, v sluchae versii eroziinogo vyvetrivaniya gematitnyh sharikov, to process erozii dlitel'nyi (prichem pri sil'nom uvelichenii sledov erozii ne vidno). I esli s sharikami nichego ne sluchilos' pri ih yakoby dlitel'nom vyvetrivanii, to chto osobennogo moglo by proizoiti pod sloem pyli? Togda kak fotografii rvov prodelannyh kolesami roverov pokazyvayut pod sloem pyli i peska sharikov net. Hotya skazannoe konechno nichego ne govorit krome neobhodimosti proverki. To chto shariki menyayut vid i cvet po sezonu samo soboi vidyat i v NASA. A v dannoe vremya gematit obrazovyvat'sya na Marse ne mozhet, poskol'ku, dlya etogo processa nuzhna voda, a ee ponyatnoe delo net i byt' ne mozhet. Dalee. Voz'mem poslednie fotografii vblizi i ryadom s kraterom Viktoriya i sravnim s fotografiyami na ego vnutrennih sklonah (Opportuniti 4 nedeli kak vnutri kratera). Sklon kratera Viktoriya Opportunity Sep 14, 2007 ( sol 1294) http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1483821263&size=o Pri obychnom skatyvanii sharikov po sklonu, imeyushiesya na sklone uglubleniya dolzhny byt' zapolneny plotnee, chem bugry i vozvysheniya. Shariki yavno izbegayut uglublenii, chto mozhno ob'yasnit' kak izbeganie zatenennyh mest. Skoree vsego oni voznikayut-obrazuyutsya-rastut imenno v teh mestah gde i nahodyatsya v dannoe vremya. Na fotografiyah vidno, chto staryi sled posle 3-4 mesyacev provetrivaniya snova pokryvaetsya sharikami. Staryi sled, Opportunity Jul 15 - Aug 4, 2007 ( sol 1234 - 1254 ) http://www.flickr.com/photos/hortonheardawho/1041371567/ Opportunity Aug 4,15,21, 2007 ( sol 1254 1265 1270) http://www.flickr.com/photos/hortonheardawho/1260309822/ Tak vot vblizi kratera my vidim nepreryvnyi pokrov iz sharikov. Na vnutrennih sklonah vverhu po kromke sklona sharikov znachitel'no men'she no est', vnizu pochti net, a te chto est' uzhe v drugom sostoyanii. Yavno svalivshiesya sverhu, pobitye i polomannye. No, ved' soglasno gematitnoi versii, eto nepravil'no. Na Zemle gematity eto prosto zalezhi i pri dannyh usloviyah kratera Viktoriya postepenno skatilis' by vniz, po doroge zapolnyaya vse treshiny i uglubleniya. Voznikayut voprosy. 1. Pochemu shariki tol'ko na poverhnosti, a v pochve net. 2. Pochemu v odin sloi? 3. Pochemu vnizu sklona kratera Viktoriya sharikov namnogo men'she chem na verhu? Ved' oni mogut skatyvat'sya tol'ko vniz, a ne naoborot. Udivitel'no, no net ni odnoi fotografii, gde by byl snyat (a voobshe horosho i pravil'no pod mikroskopom) sledy rovera na tverdom grunte. Ya imeyu v vidu, chto esli by sravnit' diametry pyaten razdavlennyh sharikov i nahodyashihsya ryadom celyh, to mozhno bylo by primerno ocenit' ih prochnost'. No takih snimkov net. A esli by Opportuniti vstrechaya uchastki s ogolennym zhestkim gruntom, periodicheski delal takie snimki, to voznikla by vozmozhnost' sravnit' izmenenie prochnosti sharikov zima-vesna-leto. V 8 chasti ya privel dostatochno mnogo fotografii sharikov i eshe bol'she ssylok. http://tonos.ru/articles/marslife8 Nizhe fotografii iznutri kratera Viktoriya i fotografii kamnei snyatye Spiritom pod mikroskopom (poverhnost' kamnei kak oplavlennaya i vsyudu otverstiya, no ne ot erozii), Opportunity Sep 14, 2007 ( sol 1294) http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1500164852&size=o Ekonom http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2250/1500177842_cc36304c65.jpg?v=0 Verhnyaya chast' sklona, sharikov na sklone men'she, no oni est'. V verhnei chasti sklona shariki est' dazhe na kamnyah, no na peschano-pylevyh uchastkah v yamah ih net. Hotya yamy zapolneny pyl'yu eto po logike prosto gotovye lovushki dlya sharikov. Otsyuda predstavlyaetsya logichnym chto vnizu sharikov net glavnym obrazom iz-za vetrovoi teni i sootvetstvenno otsutstviya potokov pyli, kotorye ochevidno neobhodimy dlya ih obrazovaniya. http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20071015a/1F245542955EFF8736P1151L0M1.jpg http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/1321/1P245461419EFF8730P2377L2M1.JPG Na nizhe privedennoi fotografii shariki kak budto skatyvalis' po treshine. No na vid eto uzhe povrezhdennye, deformirovannye shariki. Nalichie takih sharikov vnizu, tol'ko podtverzhdaet versiyu ih obrazovaniya-rosta vverhu sklona, a zatem po mere otmiraniya skatyvaniya vniz. A nebol'shoe kolichestvo sharikov vnizu, priznak ih nedolgovechnosti (raspadayutsya bystree chem nakaplivayutsya). http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/m/1322/1M245542222EFF8736P2976M2M1.JPG Opportunity Oct 13, 2007 ( sol 1322) http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1763216709&size=o Napomnyu, chto ranee my utverzhdali chto vnizu sklona kratera Viktoriya sharikov net. Eto podtverdilos' v polnom vide, v tom smysle, chto sharikov malo i oni v sil'no povrezhdennom sostoyanii. Vse vyglyadit tak, kak esli by shariki rosli naverhu i po verhnei kaime kratera i popadali vniz posle skatyvaniya (dlya ih obrazovaniya neobhodim solnechnyi svet i potoki pyli). Takzhe mozhno ubedit'sya, chto vnizu tol'ko skativshiesya shariki, a celyh net. A nemnogo sharikov, po prichine ih nedolgovechnosti. Takim obrazom, shariki formiruyutsya na otkrytoi horosho produvaemoi i osveshennoi poverhnosti. Poetomu vulkany, meteority i gematity zdes' yavno ne prichem. - A, naskol'ko shariki zhivye neobhodimo proyasnit' v dal'neishem eksperimental'no. Naprimer, razdavit' shariki kolesami na zhestkoi poverhnosti (raznye i odinakovye, izmenenie sostoyaniya po sezonu), nakryt' ten'yu (nakryt' kamnem), sdvinut' v storonu, nasypat' holmik i t. p. http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/n/1329/1N246174815EFF8788P1675L0M1.JPG http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/n/1329/1N246176353EFF8788P0775R0M1.JPG Obratim vnimanie na mesto Opportuniti, spustilsya vsego-to, a sharikov kak vidim uzhe net Tak chto my dumaem o marsianah? Zhizn' eto ili nam tol'ko kazhetsya??
Naverh
O. A. Bykovskii
Re: Strannye kamni Marsa (Spirit, Opportunity). 19.11.2007 8:41

Rassmotrim 10 samyh krupnyh kamnei vstrechennyh Spiritom za 3.5 goda raboty. http://tonos.ru/images/articles/mars/7/image060.jpg http://tonos.ru/images/articles/mars/7/image086.jpg http://tonos.ru/images/articles/mars/7/image092.jpg http://tonos.ru/images/articles/mars/7/image102.jpg http://tonos.ru/images/articles/mars/7/image118.jpg http://tonos.ru/images/articles/mars/7/image127.jpg http://tonos.ru/images/articles/mars/7/image128.jpg http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/1344/2P245676681ESFAVFUP2400L5M1.JPG http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2371/1805443436_e77bdc2a71_o.jpg Napomnim, chto put' Spirita, uchityvaya bole menee chetkoe izobrazhenie (eto vpravo-vlevo 10 metrov), pozvolil issledovat' primerno 2-3 gektara ploshadi. http://tonos.ru/images/articles/mars/7/image013.jpg